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I speak with José Stevens about long apprenticeships, humility, service, and the relationship between spiritual practice and the natural world. We explore discernment and what it means to approach a living tradition with respect.
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In this episode of Untold Medicine, Dr. Michele Burklund sits down with Dr. José Stevens, co-founder of The Power Path School of Shamanism, to explore what shamanism actually is beyond the stereotypes, trends, and commercialization. With more than 40 years of teaching and practice, a doctorate bridging shamanism and psychology, and 10 years of apprenticeship with traditional shamans in Mexico, Dr. Stevens brings rare depth to this conversation.
Together, they discuss the many roles of the shaman as healer, ceremonialist, teacher, leader, artist, and wisdom keeper; the discipline required in long-term apprenticeship; the relationship between spirit, nature, and healing; and the difference between authentic practice and the modern performance of “shamanism.” They also explore how true healing happens, why discernment matters when seeking a practitioner, and what is lost when sacred traditions are turned into trends.
This is a thoughtful conversation on healing, humility, spiritual practice, and the enduring value of ancient wisdom in a modern world.
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Original episode title
What Real Shamanic Healing Requires: A Conversation with Dr. José Stevens
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